an italian mayor, an irish american head of the police department and here we are in a circle shooting at each other. let's pause. let's take it easy. >> if this is not the most diverse police department across the country, it's one of the most. >> and that's in recent years now. >> so you've got a guy, the mayor of this city, who has a biracial family who clearly has suffered pain to what he's witnessed his young son go through. i've got co-workers who try to come to the middle of the night and they're black and get stopped and asked what they're doing regularly. i hear from my black co-workers who are just coming to cnn. they wear their cnn badges on the streets of new york. so there's pain and suffering out there. what is he to do? what is mayor de blasio to do? how does he ride that ray or-thin line. >> you listen to the president, to our attorney general, you listen to our mayor but when the police benevolent association