he wins or not. >> let's talk about the democrats, sally. in our poll, if clinton decides that -- hillary clinton decides not to run, the next in line at 41%, vice president joe biden. >> oh, joe biden. poor joe biden. it's so hard being second, you know? look, i mean, this is all a waiting game for the democrats. this is an interest phenomenon where if hillary doesn't run democrats are, in fact, scrambling because -- in part because so much of the momentum is behind her, so much of the infrastructure is behind her. it's just a fwhaenbench that is sitting back and waiting. everybody is benched because they're waiting. the other thing is the pairings. the reality is republicans are scared because they know hillary clinton is, in fact, a very hard candidate to beat. the flip side to that, and i'll agree with doug, is you know jeb bush would make a very good contender against hillary clinton. rand paul would make a strong contender against hillary clinton.