they appealed a ruling in 2003 and won that one. we want to talk about this with a man who has an interest perspective. a former college star, he played in the pros and wfl, maybe the coolest part of all, you may know he starred in the original "longest yard" movie in 1974. sonny, you are a football guy. great to have you with us. you are also a native american. you have a unique perspective. where do you stand on this? >> well, i think it's about time that it goes away myself. i think it kind of reflects on the whole nation and things we've been reading lately. if you look at middle schools and high schools and colleges have gone away with that as a mascot name. i think it's about time the pros get it right and now is the time, perfect time, for them to do it. >> you know, it's interesting, because, you know, any time there's controversy and debate, one side says this, one side says that, we have heard that supporters of the name say that they have heard from native american groups that are okay