it's pretty clear that -- >> let me ask this without going into detail, i want to be very sensitive. the families of these people might be watching us. do you see the shooting? >> yeah. i'll tell you as much as i can tell you about i. you see a 25-second video. the first thing that stands out to me, he's holding his gun up for several seconds before he fires. they were on live television, going about their business, doing their jobs, being targeted this way is appalling and awful to see. you do see several shots fired before the video stops. you don't see -- >> i think what is chilling about the video is just seeing how close the shooter was in proximity to the photographer as he approaches from behind the photographer. we've seen in the video which we are not showing on repeat that the photographer does do a pan of the lake, short of shows the scenery they're talking about. in this video which we are not