think -- the sense of insecurity people have with the economy and our politics. so donald trump is doing well by doing exactly what he does best. >> you want -- >> he probably shouldn't do much different. eventually he's going to have to put meat on the bones. eventually people will want to know are you really for a single payer tax system like in canada? are you really for raising taxes on the wealthy and are you really for an intense protectionist economy? those are things he's for but nobody is asking him that yet. >> didn't show up at that forum last night, so those questions weren't posed then. that's what thursday is going to be about, maybe really getting those answers. mike, a lot has been made of the debate structure and how it's ten on the main stage and the other candidates will have time before hand, a couple hours before that. if they don't make it on the debate stage, what then does the second tier candidate do after thursday? is that the death sentence that some have made it up to be if they don't make it on that main stage? >> no, not at all. and i think the fact there's a