you've looked at how bad this problem is. you've been looking into this, dealing with it for 10 years. you get this law passed. are you confident or has it been guaranteed to you that taxpayers are not on the hook for any of these charges yet? >> well, i can tell you in the past sometimes they have been on the hook and people haven't been fired and sometimes people haven't even been charged for the fraudulent use of taxpayers' money. in some instances there has been some prosecution. i can't give you a figure on it. but it lacks oversight by the department of defense. listen, we've run into other departments, too, that have done the same thing. the purpose now is to make sure we got official oversight, rather than just relying on whistleblowers to tell us what the information is, whether it's being abused or not. that's what this report is all about. now, whether something else needs to be done, we'll wait