can't handle this? >> well, these are soft targets. they're very easy and they get attention. a group of innocents like this will get world headlines. we're talking about it. it's low cost, high yield for these terrorist groups. al shabaab is on the run but it's trying to change itself. and this is getting the attention it wants and desperately wants in a very crowded field of extremist groups, each trying to outdo each other in brutally. >> and folks might remember us talking about al shabaab last month or in february where they made a call for hitting soft targets, like malls in the united states. how serious do you think that folks should take that threat? clearly they can cause terror and carry out terror attacks in the region. but what about in the united states? >> well, the real danger, the real threat of al shabaab is it's one of the few of these foreign terrorist organizations that has a track record of having sympathizers, a small