vatican cardinal, a guy who's been around since the dawn of time who usually likes to go around in his ecclesiastical finding, but he was wearing a set of clothes and i asked him what was up with that, he said, hey, under pope francis simple is the new chic. so that's where we are. >> good example there. i understand now we're getting oral arguments out of the supreme court wrapping up there today. it's just finished this of course the defense of marriage act or doma defining marriage between a man and woman. i want to go to our legal analy analyst je analyst jeffrey toobin. let's go to joe first though. >> the first thing i thought of when i listened to these arguments is that the court appears to be moving toward an out if it wants it on procedural grounds to not fully hit this case. that's the first thing.