he was greedy. i didn't support him in the beginning. and when he was-- and i was one of his biggest critics. but when he got in trouble... [chuckles] who he call? he called me. i should have listened to my wife. she said, ah, don't be messing with him. are there good guys out there who could presumably... >> there's a lot of good guys, >> ...not just run for office, but will win? there's a lot of guys, yes. but they don't want to run. there's a lot of people. >> why don't they want to run? >> because you've got to take the badge that come along with it. you gotta take the garbage. >> why should a bright young guy fresh out of law school start thinking about running for anything in the city of detroit? >> yeah because sooner or later, it's going to be all right. it's gonna come--it's going to be all right. it's a tough town. >> is detroit going to turn things around? i could lie and tell you yes. but you know what? this city is screwed. only place i've ever been that looks anything like detroit does now, chernobyl. i'm not being funny.