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fewer than the losses on the ukrainian side. another thing we also saw on the front line is there seemed to be quite a few russian military vehicles on the russian side that were actually broken down and needed to be towed. it's really unclear whether or not that's sort of the common attrition you would have in an operation this size with obviously tracked vehicles, for instance driving on asphalt roads and some of the trucks that we saw broken down were older as well. it certainly is something that did stand out. a lot of russian forces still going in and out of that battle zone. and some of the trucks that we saw coming out of the kharkiv, the battlefield area, the drivers of those trucks hung their flak vests into the windows so the bulletproof vests they normally wear on their bodies, that could be an indication they were taking sniper fire or were afraid of sniper fire. but of course from our vantage point, it was impossible to say that with certainty. fred polite ken, cnn, belgorod, russia.

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