herald," and has known several different libyas in his lifetime. >> for so long, the news has been the personality. gadhafi turned up to open a shopping center. gadhafi turned up to open an envelope. those of us who knew libya, who knew it was another libya, a wonderful people, would talk about it as you would talk about a dead person. do you remember this? do you remember that? then in february 2011, suddenly there was resurrection. the dead came back to life. >> we meet at a libyan coffee house, a traditional, male-only sort of a joint. cafe culture is big here. a holdover from the days of italian colonization when mussolini tried to rebuild rome's long-lost empire. >> it's just been the most amazing experience, seeing the rebirth of a country, of a people. >> i mean, last night's fireworks.