just, well, did these 177 guys do bad? but who exactly did what. it has to be specific evidence towards an individual. >> so we're now down to our second grand jury there in waco. what is going on? why does this process seem to be taking a long time. is it unusual six months on you don't have murder charges? >> well, it's tough to say. because we don't have insight into what's going on inside that grand jury room. but here's the interesting thing about grand juries is the prosecutor, since there is no defense attorney there, the prosecutor is supposed to be seeking justice. and they have an obligation to present not just evidence towards guilt of particular people, but also if there's any exculpatory evidence. they're duty bound to bring that evidence before the grand jury as well. so that could be part of the delay. but here, we've got 177 people who were swept up in the arrest event that day. and there's nine dead bodies. so when we're talking about the murder charges, obviously, many