and then by the farmers who tried to -- but that's when the real violence began. >> so really the problems in this country pre-existed the drug trade? >> what we say here is the drug trade just made everything more. there's no judge here. there's few institutions here. >> right. >> basically you know the state is here just because the army is here. so i think you're going to meet the major. anthony, this is the major. >> julio cesar gonzalez is the current mayor of milaflores, which has seen much better, much worse days. how many people in this town? >> there's around 1,500 to 2,000 in the community. the farc were here for 20 years, and they were the central authority here. >> you're running -- plantains and not much else? not even particularly well, not particularly happy with the