>> last time i did, i did the primrose and linzer torte, and i made a creme caramel. i made a salad de l'orange. a creme fraiche. and a huge cheese curd that was about like 15 kinds of cheese. >> right. and how many people are in your family at this meal? >> him and his wife, two young boys. >> how old are the kids? >> they're 2 and 4. >> so you, your wife, and a 2-year-old and a 4-year-old. >> they don't make it to the end, usually. i have to prematurely open the -- >> they don't like pernod? >> i'm thinking, you know, i also think i've got to do that. my daughter would totally be into it. [ male announcer ] from red lobster's chefs to your table