supposedly they grew an nco core, which is kind of the backbone of the leaders in military units. well, that turned out not to be the case. i think one -- well, a number of surprising things, but these combined arms armies haven't really acted in a combined arms way, and the logistics has been absolutely terrible. and some of that, i think, is due to the fact that russian army logistics is heavily dependent on railroads within the confines of russia. and of course now when they project out, they're relying on a truck fleet which is undersized for what the task is to support those troops with ammunition, food, et cetera. >> and obviously that truck fleet is very vulnerable to attack in a country like ukraine. it's not as armored up as armored personnel carriers or