but benny will never be 15. he will be 6 forever. because he is gone forever. and erica hill joins me now. those faces break my heart even to this day. these internal company dumes from remington that were so important to make public, any indication when thal ey will be released and what do you think is in them? >> we don't know exactly what is in them nor when they will be released. cnn has reached out to remington and its insurers. we have not yet heard back. it's those documents that are so important. jackie vardon who you heard from there, her son daniel was killed. she said to me, those documents were almost more important to her and her husband mark. this wasn't about the money. this was about the documents. they needed to see what was going on there. and they also, john, they look at this as honoring their son. this fight for this information,