minute call was? >> not at this point. we know it was in the morning and trump left the white house around 11:00a.m. i don't think we know the time of the call. >> could be the fall out here? >> well, jordan has refused a request to voluntarily cooperate with the house committee's investigation and in the letter requesting his cooperation the committee said they wanted to ask him about meetings he had with white house officials and trump in the weeks leading up to the attack. the committee is waiting to decide if they want to issue a subpoena for their colleague. the house rules committee chairman tweeted this cnn reporting directly contradicts jordan's testimony to the rules committee last year and tweeted suggesting it might be time for jordan to speak honestly about what happened. >> yeah. appreciate it. thank you. i spoke to chairman mcgovern just before air time.