rising stakes indeed. with more on the charges, we're joined by jessica snyder in washington. let's talk about the indictment and why the justice department chose this very specific charge of seditious conspiracy. >> serious indeed, it carries 20 years max in prison. what's clear from what we're seeing in this robust indictment is the justice department has been working methodically for the past year, even getting some members of the oath keepers to cooperate. and we're seeing that because we're seeing these encrypted messages. and all of it paints this full and really frightening picture of the violence that these 11 defendants were allegedly plotting. it didn't just involve january 6th. this plot extended, according to the doj, through the inauguration. the planning here allegedly started as far back as november. these encrypted messaging apps like signal, one of these members is even accused of taking a reconnaissance trip here to washington before january 6th. they also are accused of stockpiling weapons. the doj says they formed what they called quick reaction force teams in three separate states