chief of staff who's gone in and talked, as well. mark short. and the theater of what we saw today. the strategic release by the committee to tell the story of meadows' culpability. i mean, this is a very able investigation -- having been inside of one. and that's why i think you are seeing the keith kellogg's of the world who are cooperating. they don't want to face the criminal charges that now are confronting mr. meadows. >> yeah. norm eisen, appreciate it. carl bernstein, gloria borger. coming up next, as we wait for the house to vote, one of the organizers of the january 6th rally, the information he says he is providing to them. also, infectious disease specialist michael osterholm on the new omicron strain and how fast it's spreading. that, plus hopeful news on how effective the new pfizer pill is at keeping people out of the hospital.