>> but, erick, do you worry about this sustained effort by the former president? because it seems like now, there is going to be in a lot of states, folks who believe the big lie running for school boards -- not school board -- running for election boards to -- to, you know, be ones who are in a position of certifying the next elections. >> look. i -- i get hate mail on my radio show nearly every day when i tell people the election wasn't stolen. certainly, there were irregularities. i was an elections lawyer. there always are. but it wasn't stolen. and yeah, it does trouble me that the adamantsy of the people who believe this, but also i don't think they are the majority and i think to some degree, when you see president trump's polling within the republican party after january 6th, it was 90%, then 80, then 70. now, it's at 60%. time heals all these wounds and pretty soon republicans will be flirting with someone else. >> van, do you think that's true? >> well, you know, hope springs eternal. i -- we haven't seen -- we