commentator, a former massachusetts democratic congressman, joe kennedy. congressman, president biden obviously only the second catholic president in u.s. history. the first was your great uncle, president john f. kennedy. so what do you make of the rapport that the two men, the pontiff and the president, seem to have? at one point the president said "god love you" to the holy father. >> it's a good thing to say to the holy father. i think that's true, right? so look, i think phil hit it right on. this is obviously a deeply consequential meeting for any president, all the more so for somebody who is a devoted catholic, catholic as president biden is. someone who i think john, as you know, i think as everybody knows has seen more than his fair share of tragedy in his life. and in those trying times turned to his faith to get him through it. and i think when even political opponents of president biden