obstruction here. >> wow. jessica schneider, fascinating. i appreciate it. thank you now, to cnn's kaitlan collins at the white house for more on what the president said to her about those who defy the january 6th committee's subpoenas. so what exactly did the president say? >> well, it's notable, anderson, because the white house, so far, has declined to really weigh in on this. saying it's up to the justice department how they are going to proceed with this because we do know when that select committee gets back to washington next week, they are expected to vote on these criminal contempt charges for steve bannon after he said he was going to defy their subpoenas. so we asked the president tonight, what is his response to this? what does he think of people who are defying these subpoenas? and should the justice department prosecute them? and this is what he told us. >> i hope that the committee goes after them, and holds them accountable criminally. >> should they be prosecuted by the justice department? >> i do, yes. >> now, what's notable about that is, of course, is not just the president weighing in. what he thinks the repercussions should be for people like steve bannon who are defying these subpoenas and others who may do so as well. but also, the white house says they operate independently from the justice department. so a justice department spokesperson has responded to the president's comments to me tonight and they said the department of justice will make its own independent decision and all prosecutions based solely on the facts and the law.