have the personnel to really inves investigate? have they got a systematic process of isolating what they call the satellite witnesses, people who might have known or worked with some of the key figures and get them in and, you know, we should be hopeful about that, but it's got to be aggressive and systematic. >> yeah, i mean, john, you and i have talked about this before, the house select committee says they'll move swift to hold bannon in criminal contempt, but has that ever worked before? >> it doesn't work well. first of all, it's a very old statute they're relying on, written back in 1857. the language for contempt, or the action is a willful default, makes a willful default. it isn't even clear what that means. and particularly in bannon's situation, he's acting on the