some sort of activity, then -- then this really is just theater. there really is no action that comes from anything. >> you know, part of her argument is look, they are just out for the money. they are doing things that they know are not good. i mean, isn't that a lot of companies? isn't that a lot of cable news shows which are, like, you know, screaming and yelling and they know it's not good and they're getting people angry and riled up? isn't -- i mean, isn't that not good? >> 100%. they're not doing anything -- other media outlets aren't doing. they are just doing it much better and for some reason, we have exonerated them from any liability. if cnn or any other cable network could be reverse engineered to teen depression or if you were taking ads from the russian intelligence arm or the intelligence arm of the russian government, you'd be in a world of hurt. facebook -- we have been talking a lot about the meta-verse recently and the reason it's got all this attention, what if mark zuckerberg controls a world where we start spending more and more time, wouldn't that make him god? we have a 30-something-year-old