the trump world you go and you come back. ban no one says to trump, we will strangle the biden presidency in the crib. and that is a foreshadowing, of course, of the violence that we saw the next day. so they're trying -- they're working around the edges in a very logical way. now bannon, what we have in our book, bannon has publicly confirmed. >> robert, bannon is one of the people, as we said, being subpoenaed. the book describes how instrumental he was in the final days of the trump presidency. as bob said, by then it was known that people who once were persona non grata around the president could easily become his best friends and advisors once again. were you surprised by how much influence bannon had on the president leading up to january