you know, if you have an unpopular guy, and, you know, how long did they run against, you know, nancy pelosi? that's been done in american politics forever. it is going to continue to be done. people are not looking for a three-point plan or a five-point plan and that nonsense. you have to let people know what is at stake here. i think so far it has worked pretty well, but it is -- you know, there's a lot of football between now and next november. >> you have been critical of a faction of the democratic party and their wokeness. based on the campaign that newsom ran painting larry elder as a symbol of trumpism, looking at that race do you still think that political wokeness is a real concern for democrats and what's the future on that? >> well, we haven't heard, you know, we didn't hear any of that out of california. i don't hear any of that in virginia. none of this is defund the police, latinx.