interests ahead of what's best for our country, john, chaos ensues. and if this were happening anywhere else in the world, the united states would normally be the ones to point their finger and say no, that's not a democracy. you can't condone an insurrection and pretend an election wasn't fair when certified by everybody including the vice president of the united states. so when that starts to happen and short term political interests, trump was good for our country, a crisis ensues. >> the former president essentially said when you look at this embrace of the big lie by many in the republican party and using that lie to restrict people's ability to vote, he's worried about democracy. you know, i wonder how you think -- >> i -- >> go ahead. >> i want to interrupt you to say we have 47 states in our country that are trying to pass laws to restrict the americans' right to vote. that is anti democratic. >> how do you think all of this january 6th and what we're seeing now has affected how he