if you could interview him now, because you haven't spoken to him since you turned down the rnc. >> no. well, when i turned down the rnc was the last time we spoke, and i said to him, what are you doing? and i explained to him in the nicest way that it would be difficult for me. i said i'm not really actually comfortable being a public speaker, which i'm not. i don't like going up. i never was a standup comic. i don't like getting up in front of audiences. this radio studio suits me just fine. i'm alone with robin and she's my audience. i'm in heaven. it's great. so when -- you know, what struck me as even odd, i know he was a hillary clinton fan. he was a supporter of hers. so the whole thing was weird. and i am -- i have been a hillary clinton supporter way back before when obama -- when