and that's why he released the aid because he didn't want to be caught anymore. he wanted an excuse to get right with, you know, a situation where he had been caught. >> you know, kirsten it's interesting. this is one more the piece of evidence not in fibrin of congress here but a report here more evidence on top of a mountain of evidence. >> yeah. >> what does that matter. >> i think the more -- you know the more evidence you can get -- i mean it supports pretty much everything that we have already seen. but i think it's really important because, you know, you have the president insisting, i said there was no quid pro quo and somehow that's meaningful. now we know why he was using the phrase which always seems strange because it's not how anybody talks frankly. specifically not how he talks. the fact that he knew he had been accused of quid pro quo because he had seen this report i think is meaningful. i think also just extremely troubling that he was being told