this is about to go public, right? we're about to have public hearings on this. how do you take this move from republicans conceding the evidence, conceding what we can see and read and hear for ourselves, and how do you prove to the american people that it was wrong? >> well, you prove that it's wrong by making it not a partisan issue. look, this isn't a democrat argument. this isn't a partisan argue. the issue is whether or not it's okay and it's an acceptable use of the president's executive authority and foreign policy powers to use his office and hold out national security and defense assistance to an ally in order to extort that foreign government leader to collect political information to aid your political interests. and so members of congress, it's not about talking points. it's about whether or not they are going to be willing to set a historical precedent that that's okay in our politics.