ukraine, you know, kowtowing to trump to go after biden, that -- it's just extraordinary. like you can't -- it's just stung. >> it is extraordinary. and it is also quite at least in my reading a very obvious if not explicitly stated quid pro quo. do the favor, give us the dirt on biden, and you'll get your $250 million in military aid. it is -- in a courtroom, that would be easy to prove. this is not a courtroom. this is a political environment, but the explicitness of the interaction between the two was astonishing. >> let me ask you what david was wondering before the break which is has the white house waived privilege by allowing the information that's come out to go out, allowing the acting dni to talk today? >> no. i don't think they've waived all privileges. i mean, there are certain areas that i don't think any court