to be a quid pro quo the president has to spell it out and say, by the way, i've stopped the aid, i'm holding it up even though congress passed it on a bipartisan basis and you, you know, do me this thing on crowd strike and my conspiracy theory about the 2016 election, oh and by the way, biden -- why is he bringing up biden if it's not a favor? >> because the ukrainian president brought it up. >> oh, come on. >> this has been something they've been pushing. it's also so crazy making because biden did the opposite. >> by the way, of all the things the brand new ukrainian president has top of his list of concerns is joe biden's son from years ago and his board seat. i mean, that's amazing to me. i'm out of time. rick santorum, thank you, and kirstjen. senator, i want to get your