talk about what was in the mueller report. but as that hank johnson exchange showed, the congressman from georgia, the hearing -- hearing lewandowsky talk about how the president instructed him word for word, writing down the instruction to go tell jeff sessions to ease off the mueller investigati investigation, it was dramatic business, but it was not anything substantially new. >> and kirsten, if the idea of this was to sort of open the eyes of the american public about what's actually in the mueller report, i understand maybe some people took that who were watching it so closely, got that from those exchanges that we just cut together. but if you just tuned into this thing, it was a bunch of people yelling back and forth and being passive-aggressive to each other and i mean, it didn't -- >> yeah. >> it wasn't something that was, you know, informing the american public every second. >> yeah, it wasn't something