polls and under that rational, elizabeth warren looks attractive and certainly bernie is able to hang on. fy we-- if i were in the biden camp, i would be concerned about the fact he's holding his own in the top three against a whole bunch of other people but look at that progressive block. >> let's talk about elizabeth warren for a second. there is a focus on the crowds, crowd size is often controversial when you're covering elections because it doesn't always mean that the person is generating tons and tons of support but she had 12,000 at a rally, some 15,000 at a rally in seattle. a lot of people are showing up to elizabeth warren events and you combine that with the strong showing and this poll and other polls have shown her consistently inching up. what does that tell you? >> she's the most impressive person on the scene right now because you got to remember, she was written off for dead. she slipped on the pocahontas