>> we have debt on debt on debt. >> we have to get rid of t. >> reduce our 18 trillion in debt because, believe me, we're in a bubble. we owe 19 trillion as a country, and we're going to knock it down. >> we pay it back so easily. >> how? ee it's easy to pay it back. >> easy when you're just talking on tv. not so easy when you're actually president. more now on all this from sneenz kaitlan collins who joins us from the white house. these comments from larry kudlow -- it's hard to see it as anything other than a change to the white house that's saying this week about tax cuts. and the president has been all over the map on this. >> it fits perfectly into this pattern, this week of mixed messaging you're seeing coming out of the white house over whether or not they're pursuing something like a payroll tax cut or not, which has gone back and forth. but, anderson, really what that shows you is that there is a high level of uncertainty in this white house over how to respond to these warning signs that are flashing of the potential of an economic downturn. there's been some disagreements