take on the radicals. and what we should be doing, it seems to me, is supporting those people, encouraging them and making them feel, no, you represent what we see as the world of islam, not isis. >> it was one of the points that lindsey graham made on the undercard debate, which is, what do you say to the king of jordan, who is an ally in this fight, you know, this offends huge numbers of people in jordan, you know, does the king of jordan not get allowed into the country? he's muslim? >> you know, part of the difficulty, i think the media is having is how to deal with a proposal that is, quite frankly, nonsensical. he begins by saying, it's a complete and total shutdown of all muslims, then he says, no, i don't mean american citizens. then somebody asks him about government officials. he says, no, we'll make an exception for that. and then someone asked about athletes. he said, we'd make an exception for that. first of all, it's not a complete and total shutdown. secondly, there's no way to figure out who's a muslim. the whole thing is so preposterous you almost feel like, i'm not going to take this