serious to deal with islamic terrorism, which is an immediate threat. what he's proposing would not have stopped what just happened. if he had a serious degree of policy knowledge or insight, he would talk about how would we improve our domestic intelligence surveillance of folks like this. how do we target these people? how do we profile in order to figure out who is going to get radicalized? >> charles -- >> he's great at the show, he's terrible at the leadership. >> before you respond, charles, all of the experts here, all the terrorism experts, all the law enforcement analysts we've had come on say that this sort of proposal was dangerous and would not stop radicalization or terrorism here in the united states. but go on. do you think that this clears it up and do you agree with that? >> well, no. all i was going to say is i think that -- and i'm not defending this proposal, but i do think that it would have at least stopped the woman from getting in here on a k1 visa. and that would have been a very