you know, tea party supporters, supporting trump, what do you make of that. i know you believe if you are a true tea party follower or believer, trump is not the person? >> yeah, i think donald trump is the anti-tea party. he is all about a -- a charismatic person that is going to take charge much look barack obama has. but i think what is going on here. this is a paradigm shift in american politic as way from the closed door sessions where the, the gop poobas would say, "jeb it is your turn." that is not going to happen this time. a lot of this, disruption. and also a repudiation of the gop establishment. they have trashed the republican brand, amongst republicans. and donald trump and ben carson and anybody that doesn't have an r next to their name is sort of exploiting that window of opportunity. >> and amanda, the one reliable ally that donald trump is going to have on the debate stage is your former boss, ted cruz,