a new attorney will be taking over this increasingly high profile face. >> appreciate the reporting. joining us former new york city corrections deputy warden ed gavin and brian manne who did interview in alexandra's report. that interview was fast night, he was your guide on a story 15 years ago the north yard of the prison. an area controlled mostly by the inmates they kept barbecue grills, recreation, gardens, this was happening inside a maximum security prison. did it surprise you? >> yeah, i was blown away by what i saw. i saw inmates working with power tools. i saw inmates with an enormous amount of liberty. the gang activity there sets the