but the case that got me to decide to become a criminal defense lawyer is when i was 12, my father was a prosecutor at that point. >> i like that. >> he got the -- saw the light and became a defense lawyer the following year. i went to court with him when i was 12. i watched him prosecute an 18-year-old kid and send him to state prison for being in a room where marijuana was smoked. that had the most unbelievable effect on me. i said to my father, how in the world can you put an 18-year-old kid right out of the box into state prison for being in a room where marijuana was smoked. >> i completely understand that. >> that has completely changed the career trajectory of me. >> if someone is in a room where they are packaging cocaine or where they are trading guns and illegally trading guns and do nothing about it and are --