takes it seriously. it's a big intelligence community. and there may have been miscommunications here. >> david, you wrote a column earlier this week which you said that putin had already won. what do you mean by that? >> well, in effect what he really wanted was crimea. and he's gotten crimea. crimea is a vital strategic importance to first the soviet union now to russia. it helps guarantee their outlet to the meditteranean and black sea. it's of critical vital importance and he has that now. >> julia, in your latest piece in "the new republic "i've been following on twitter all week long. it's been fascinating to read your stuff. you reference a comment ma putin made back in 2008 at a nato summit where he told then president bush that ukraine isn't even a country. we had professor steven cohen on last night and he said the same thing. it's not even a country. obviously a lot of people in kiev take great issue to that. how much is that kind of thinking driving vladimir putin's actions right now? >> i think it's driving a large