was involved in did. left his vehicle. that's not what you want to do in a situation. and he didn't. >> don't go looking for help seems to be the adce you have. look, you were on the special forces. one of the things you do not have to work with in special forces at least out there in the field, 3 and 4-year-old kids. there were four kids here, 10 years old and younger. how difficult do you think that must have been to deal with? >> boy, i got to tell you, salute to this guy. i'm quite sure his kids were more than a little alarmed for their ages. i think they were between the ages of 3 and 10 from what i read. but what i do understand about his family is this wasn't their first time out in the snow, which definitely helped and increased their chances of surviv without a doubt >> no, this family clearly knew what they were doing. we're so glad they're all okay. joseph todai thanks for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks, man.