>> there's a silence around it which it's killing people. >> yeah, it's killing people. and then you think about -- here these people are going around who don't know and infecting other people, and it just keeps going. it just keeps going and keeps going. so this has really hurt the black and brown community. >> the fact that young people, you know, people who have received the education about it know, you know, they probably had it in school, maybe they know about safe sex are still getting infected. how do you overcome that? how do you stop it? >> well, that's the problem and that's the challenge because they think nothing can happen to them. at the end of the day, in our community, we have to start accepting those who are gay in our family. like my son e.j. come out. cooky and i will support our son we love our son. we're going to support him 150%, but we're one of the minorities