are people being affected by this. but they aren't really commuting or acknowledging, anderson, that the reason why these people aren't being affected is that their plans don't comply with obama care. they can blame the insurance companies but it's the obama care that's causing this. >> the supporters say the plans that they have, they're not great plans, they're too basic. a lot of these people will get better plans. the flip side it may cost them for, if they don't qualify for subsidies. these new plans may cause them more. >> that's exactly right. there are millions of people zrupgted ed disrupted in all of this. in the pre-obama care era, where they might be out of luck, in the new era, what they might be able to do go online and buy insurance, yes, while the benefits may be better and there might be more coverage, those policies are going to cost more. i talked to an industry