he said he would get me $5,000. back then it was quite a bit of money. >> still is. [ laughter ] >> see the problem i deal with? big problem. >> the cost of the pennies -- >> that's right. >> and so when i graduated, i had $5,000 and i had a summer job so i earned another $2300 and i bought a new car with it. i thought it was a good deal. >> warren, you stuck rigly to the terms of the deal. >> no, it was a deal. >> it's interesting the two incentives, one worked and one didn't. do you regret the weight incentive you laid down with your son? >> i would say it was dumb. we're still talking about it today. >> do you lay these down on hwp? >> no i don't think i've ever done that. sometimes i would tell him he's going on a trip to some country he doesn't want to go to.