still, anderson, for all of that. >> a relevant testifily low level. top secret is a standard 134. >> top secret is a high level. there is nor scrutiny and additional levels beyond that. but even for a secret level clearance, these things, the arrests should have been picked up. was this man suitable to hold, to have access and hold a security clearance? i think not. so the navy needs to understand why these, all these flags were missed. >> does it surprise you that this defense contractor didn't seem to have caught these other incidents? >> well, i think it's unusual. certainly, when you are hiring contractors, you want to make sure they are providing the most scrutiny. not just for the physical issues we saw yesterday where people were killed but also national security. the concern that somebody might be selling secrets to a foreign government or something of that nature, particularly when you are on a military installation. so those are absolutely the types of thing that should be given the utmost scrutiny highly sensitive area.