meeting space. it was not a phone call and this was an environment the leadership set up that people could plug into and they again went to extensive lengths to try to make sure that it was secure. in this case they seemed to have failed. >> fran, what is your take in this. >> it's so counter intuitive, the operational security of al qaeda. there is lots of ways of communicating and we know there were a number of things that triggered the alert. there was a videotaped calling for the release of the must m brothers from prison. he appointed the head of al qaeda, the yemen group as number two. there is a series of things. so whether or not why you would have needed in audition to all that to pull them all together, they understand very well the u.s. government and our allies ability to target their location using their communications and so to give the u.s. intelligence committee the opportunity to