not called bashing, that's whoop ass. you just got your ass whooped. that's what it is. >> would trayvon if he were scared, would he have whooped ass as you put it? >> whoop ass >> would he have defended himself if he had been in that position? >> yes, in my mind, in reality, trayvon, before his death, he thought i was still on the phone, i could have called out for help or something. but i wasn't on the phone. the struggle -- trayvon have an android. if you click on the android, it can end the call. there was a struggle, so somebody had to be on top of