difference. >> how so zm. >> well, because george had a right to protect himself at that point. >> so you believe that george zimmerman really felt his life was in danger? >> i do. i really do. >> do you think trayvon martin threw the first punch? >> i think he did. >> what makes you think that? >> because of the evidence on the t on the sidewalk, where george says he was punched, there was evidence of his flashlight and keys there, and little further down, there was a flashlight that he was carrying. and i think that's where trayvon hit him. >> you think based on the testimony you heard, you believe that trayvon martin was the aggress aggressor? >> i think the roles changed. i think george got in a little bit too deep. which he shouldn't have been there. but trayvon decided that he wasn't going to let him scare