very loyal guy. he had the same amount of friends that he had with him when he wasn't famous as when he was famous. he didn't change. he didn't suddenly move on to a different stratosphere. he kept the same kind of family around him that he had when he wasn't famous. he really -- the nice to hear everyone's reflections and he was definitely an actor's actor. every time i'm interviewing actors or talking about other actors he was always mentioned. people had a tremendous amount of respect for him, for his sheer talent also his big personality, but yet his gentleness and humor. he was very, very well liked. >> also with us is eliana rice who pro-filed mr. james gandolfini in 2010. what surprised you? you can look at the body of work or go to broadway and look at the television shows and work the sopranos that you want. when you sat down and walked away from the interviews, do you